I'm looking to set up my new Weatherby SA-459 for this spring. I'm in the process of loading some of Hal's Big 20 Stubby XXLG, Big 20 Stubby XXXLG and Big 20 XL 9's. You all who shoot a 459, what have you had the best luck with as far as chokes/optics/TSS loads go? I'm not looking for a super hot core but something that is great at 40 yds but not so tight that I might miss at 20. I've been leaning toward a Sumtoy .562. Thanks in advance.
Carlson .575 extended, non ported. Sumtoy is better for overall 10in pellet count but was too tight for my liking when it comes to real world hunting. I just shoot regular Federal TSS #9. Burris FF3 is the sight I like...
Quote from: FL-Boss on September 28, 2020, 03:33:27 PM
Carlson .575 extended, non ported. Sumtoy is better for overall 10in pellet count but was too tight for my liking when it comes to real world hunting. I just shoot regular Federal TSS #9. Burris FF3 is the sight I like...
Appreciate it. What kind of range can you get with the .575? I'm definitely looking for a real world hunting choke (not going for pellet count on paper). I just don't want to be picking shot from the breast meat after a 40yd shot. Been there done that with another gun/choke combo.
40 is no issue at all.
Real world hunting the 570 will work all day long. Alot of them look good on paper but paper can be miss leading :z-twocents:
Sounds good. Thank you both.
Anyone have any good luck with an off brand red dot type optic. I'd love to go with a Burris or Vortex, but the funding isn't there. There are so many brands out there now, I was wondering if anyone had given one a shot and had good results.
AT3 Tactical I have seen a few run. The Swamp Fox also. Now that said the Burris and Vortex out sales because of a reason. Just my :z-twocents:
Quote from: FL-Boss on September 28, 2020, 03:33:27 PM
Carlson .575 extended, non ported. Sumtoy is better for overall 10in pellet count but was too tight for my liking when it comes to real world hunting. I just shoot regular Federal TSS #9. Burris FF3 is the sight I like...
I have the same chokes for my sa459, Sumtoy and Carlson. I run the Sumtoy often for myself but put the slightly more open Carlson in when my wife is behind the gun.
I've run hw7s, federal tss9s and apex tss 9s all with 100% success for myself
Run the same setup of Sumtoy and fast fire on my 870 - 12ga
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Quote from: SumToy on September 30, 2020, 09:26:12 AM
AT3 Tactical I have seen a few run. The Swamp Fox also. Now that said the Burris and Vortex out sales because of a reason. Just my :z-twocents:
Thank you
Quote from: TauntoHawk on September 30, 2020, 01:13:56 PM
Quote from: FL-Boss on September 28, 2020, 03:33:27 PM
Carlson .575 extended, non ported. Sumtoy is better for overall 10in pellet count but was too tight for my liking when it comes to real world hunting. I just shoot regular Federal TSS #9. Burris FF3 is the sight I like...
I have the same chokes for my sa459, Sumtoy and Carlson. I run the Sumtoy often for myself but put the slightly more open Carlson in when my wife is behind the gun.
I've run hw7s, federal tss9s and apex tss 9s all with 100% success for myself
Run the same setup of Sumtoy and fast fire on my 870 - 12ga
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Thanks. Are you referring to the Sumtoy .570 or .562?
Quote from: B Rogers on September 30, 2020, 03:40:35 PM
Quote from: TauntoHawk on September 30, 2020, 01:13:56 PM
Quote from: FL-Boss on September 28, 2020, 03:33:27 PM
Carlson .575 extended, non ported. Sumtoy is better for overall 10in pellet count but was too tight for my liking when it comes to real world hunting. I just shoot regular Federal TSS #9. Burris FF3 is the sight I like...
I have the same chokes for my sa459, Sumtoy and Carlson. I run the Sumtoy often for myself but put the slightly more open Carlson in when my wife is behind the gun.
I've run hw7s, federal tss9s and apex tss 9s all with 100% success for myself
Run the same setup of Sumtoy and fast fire on my 870 - 12ga
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Thanks. Are you referring to the Sumtoy .570 or .562?
Sumtoy is 562
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I have three of the Sa459 in 20, Ya I know that I have a problem. But my kids like them when they hunt. I run a SumToy .562-2, And Indian Creek .555 and a Carlsons .575. Shooting any of Hal or Ronny's loads produce great results from all three chokes. Have seen gobblers die from 8yds out to 71 from this combo...
I too have a .562-2 Sumtoy and a .575 Carlson's for my Weatherby PA459TR which has the 18 1/2" barrel. I shoot Ronny's, Lil Hammer and have utilized the Carlson's in wooded terrain or where I don't anticipate any long shots. The Sumtoy produces a dense 10" and even 20" which usually stays in the gun, since I have shot it a lot at ranges from 10-65 yards and am totally comfortable w/ the gun, sights, and shells. I built a shot recovery trap several years to mollify the cost of shooting and evaluating a lot of TSS shells at various hunting ranges.
Thanks everyone. I assume you are talking about a .562-5? Thanks again
I awoke from a deep sleep, and thought to myself, "I think I put down .565-2 instead os 562-5." Thanks for the correction! I've got a back-bored Winchester SXP LongBeard and shoot a Carlson's .580 w/ the Lil Hammer, and per Ronny's observation and my own patterning, the Primo's .570 throws a great pattern w/ a phenomenal 10", but it's too tight for me for hunting. The more you shoot and pattern various loads and develop confidence in your gun, shells, shooting abilities and range estimation the tighter the choke which you can utilize which is true for, not only turkey hunting, but wingshooting as well. There is no substitution for shooting and practicing w/ your hunting gun of choice.
Thanks. Been there done that on waking up realizing I messed up. ;D No worries.
I shoot a 562 Sumtoy with browning TSS 7&9 blends and have had incredible results
Where r y'all finding the guns? Online or local gun shops?
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Found this one back in the summer and jumped on it.
Sa-459 is not being made anymore.. but there still may be some online for sale. Instead, look for the Tristar viper with pistol grip... basically the exact same gun ( I have both) but I prefer the tristar in the factory bottomland..