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Title: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Jc69 on September 08, 2020, 09:27:11 AM
Picking up an older 11-87.  I don't think it is what is considered the true old school camo pattern, but it is older.  To start with, I don't have all the exact info at this time.  I found the gun over the weekend and for the first time ever, my background check was delayed.  (I'm not sure why, every time I've bought a gun in the past, they usually comment on how fast it goes through, and I've never even had a speeding ticket.)
So anyway I should have it by the weekend and can get more definite info on it.
  Looks to be 21-23 inch barrel its an 11-87 Special Purpose. It isn't the tree bark, bottomland or green leaf, but it is an older camo pattern, I suspect from late 1990's.  The type of camo isn't written in the camo like most modern camo's.  I looked all over and couldn't find anything like mossy oak or realtree in the camo.  I should have gotten the date code off the barrel, but by that point, I was trying to figure out why my background was delayed.
  Anyway, appreciate any info in general on the older special purpose 11-87s.
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Ozarks Hillbilly on September 08, 2020, 09:39:23 AM
Does it have a vent rib or rifle sights? Late 90's I would venture a guess camo pattern is Mossy Oak original Break Up. Then they switched to Mossy Oak Obsession. Mid 2000's they switched to Realtree APG.
I would suggest a Indian Creek. 665 choke tube. Check POI vs. POA make any necessary adjustments and go hunting.

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Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Jc69 on September 08, 2020, 10:07:40 AM
Vent rib, with a some type of high viz....not sure if that is original to the gun.  Did say no light loads on the barrel.  It comes with a tight wad choke.  I've been looking around for an older 11-87 and this one is almost exactly what I was looking for.  The only thing that would have made it better, to me, is the old bottom land or green leaf.
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Tom007 on September 08, 2020, 01:18:37 PM
Sounds like a beauty, good luck with it.....
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Jc69 on September 08, 2020, 02:19:23 PM
Thanks! The gun shop called me and told me I'm all cleared to pick her up so I'll know exactly what it is by tomorrow.
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Ozarks Hillbilly on September 08, 2020, 02:53:04 PM
Congrats post a picture when you get it.

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Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Tom007 on September 08, 2020, 03:30:49 PM
Quote from: Ozarks Hillbilly on September 08, 2020, 02:53:04 PM
Congrats post a picture when you get it.

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X2, love to see a picture.....
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: ChiefBubba on September 08, 2020, 04:43:06 PM
Just an FYI back grounds checks are running about 24 hours behind. I've bought 2 guns this summer and I picked them up next day. Good luck and show us some pictures. Bubba
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Jc69 on September 09, 2020, 09:52:03 AM
More specifics on the gun.  It has a 21 inch barrel,  I think it is a 1999-2001 since there is no barrel code on the left side of the barrel?  It just says Special Purpose on the receiver, doesn't state special purpose such as turkey or predator?  I'm not sure of the camo pattern..  It isn't the old greenleaf or bottom land or tree bark, but in parts of the camo pattern, you can see what looks like some of the old treebark or bottomland pattern mixed in.  I don't think it is what is considered the true old school 11-87, but still an older one?  Here is a pic, if I am smart enough to figure this out.

Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Jc69 on September 09, 2020, 09:58:33 AM
I'm not sure if my picture posted?  IF I'm logged in, i can see it, if I'm not logged in, no picture?
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: CALVIN7878 on September 09, 2020, 10:07:28 AM
Mossy oak original breakup.
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Ozarks Hillbilly on September 09, 2020, 10:32:50 AM
Good find

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Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Jc69 on September 09, 2020, 11:35:01 AM
Thanks, I have been on the lookout for a good used  11-87 since around the beginning of the year.  I was looking at any version I could come across.  I wasn't looking too hard, just visiting a few gun shops that I know of here and there in person and I didn't look online.  I didn't really figure I would come across a camo one.  It's in real good condition, it has two small places where the camo has worn a little.  Plan to use it alot.
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Jc69 on September 09, 2020, 01:45:03 PM
Here is the other side of her with the 2 worn spots on the camo:
  I don't think it has been shot just a whole lot.  Unless they have been changed, the bolt is solid black with no wear and the loading port has zero wear and is solid black and it has a sticker inside the forend about the gas ring still on.


Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Ozarks Hillbilly on September 09, 2020, 02:29:37 PM
One suggestion for you. If you don't want to switch out that J lock safety. Be sure to carry the key with you in your turkey vest.

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Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Jc69 on September 09, 2020, 02:44:52 PM
I wasn't sure about what that was on the safety!  I didn't get a key and it seems to work like a normal remington safety, ...........but I haven't shot it yet?  I've never come across one of these......Ozark Hillbilly, you may have just gotten out-hillbillied?
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Tom007 on September 09, 2020, 04:20:38 PM
Beautiful gun, great find. If you are unhappy with the worn camo spots, I am confident that one of us on the forum will purchase it from you....lol. Good luck with it. They are great guns.....
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Ozarks Hillbilly on September 09, 2020, 04:51:03 PM
Remington didn't use them for very long. Basically there is a J shaped key that you can insert into the slot on the safety button. When tuned the button is locked on safe. I have seen a couple of them fail. I think there were a lot of issues with the ones on the 700 rifles.

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Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: captpete on September 09, 2020, 05:40:05 PM
I have a 2001 870 SPM with same camo pattern...it is Mossy Oak Break-up. I recently replaced the "J-Lock" safety on it. About $20 in parts, about 20 minutes of time and it was done.. I actually had mine screw up 2 times on me. I went to shoot at a duck and couldn't get the safety off. Some how or another the "J-Lock" got turned, locking the safety. After playing with it for awhile I was able get it turned so I could take the safety off. Since then I made sure I had the "key" with me. It did it one other time while I was Pheasant hunting. Same thing, went to shoot and couldn't take the safety off. That time I had the "key" in my pocket.
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Tom007 on September 09, 2020, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: captpete on September 09, 2020, 05:40:05 PM
I have a 2001 870 SPM with same camo pattern...it is Mossy Oak Break-up. I recently replaced the "J-Lock" safety on it. About $20 in parts, about 20 minutes of time and it was done.. I actually had mine screw up 2 times on me. I went to shoot at a duck and couldn't get the safety off. Some how or another the "J-Lock" got turned, locking the safety. After playing with it for awhile I was able get it turned so I could take the safety off. Since then I made sure I had the "key" with me. It did it one other time while I was Pheasant hunting. Same thing, went to shoot and couldn't take the safety off. That time I had the "key" in my pocket.

Great news, better to fail on a duck than a big Tom....be safe....great advice on changing it out....
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: captpete on September 09, 2020, 06:06:09 PM
Here are a couple of pics of the key. It is 2-3 inches long.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50325000327_8f75a4a677_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jF3Mir)key1 (https://flic.kr/p/2jF3Mir) by K Pete (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152428466@N06/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50325002897_c6f06460eb_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jF3N4K)key (https://flic.kr/p/2jF3N4K) by K Pete (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152428466@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: captpete on September 09, 2020, 06:07:25 PM
Quote from: Tom007 on September 09, 2020, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: captpete on September 09, 2020, 05:40:05 PM
I have a 2001 870 SPM with same camo pattern...it is Mossy Oak Break-up. I recently replaced the "J-Lock" safety on it. About $20 in parts, about 20 minutes of time and it was done.. I actually had mine screw up 2 times on me. I went to shoot at a duck and couldn't get the safety off. Some how or another the "J-Lock" got turned, locking the safety. After playing with it for awhile I was able get it turned so I could take the safety off. Since then I made sure I had the "key" with me. It did it one other time while I was Pheasant hunting. Same thing, went to shoot and couldn't take the safety off. That time I had the "key" in my pocket.

Great news, better to fail on a duck than a big Tom....be safe....great advice on changing it out....

That is exactly the reason I decided to change it out!!
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Ozarks Hillbilly on September 09, 2020, 06:15:50 PM
Quote from: captpete on September 09, 2020, 06:07:25 PM
Quote from: Tom007 on September 09, 2020, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: captpete on September 09, 2020, 05:40:05 PM
I have a 2001 870 SPM with same camo pattern...it is Mossy Oak Break-up. I recently replaced the "J-Lock" safety on it. About $20 in parts, about 20 minutes of time and it was done.. I actually had mine screw up 2 times on me. I went to shoot at a duck and couldn't get the safety off. Some how or another the "J-Lock" got turned, locking the safety. After playing with it for awhile I was able get it turned so I could take the safety off. Since then I made sure I had the "key" with me. It did it one other time while I was Pheasant hunting. Same thing, went to shoot and couldn't take the safety off. That time I had the "key" in my pocket.

Great news, better to fail on a duck than a big Tom....be safe....great advice on changing it out....

That is exactly the reason I decided to change it out!!
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Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Tom007 on September 09, 2020, 07:19:14 PM
Amen....
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Jc69 on September 10, 2020, 09:43:07 AM
Thanks for all the replies and info.  I'll run by the gun shop and see if I can pick up a key for now and  order a replacement kit for the safety.  One more quick question, would this be considered the Special Purpose turkey?  It only says Special Purpose on the receiver and I see where remington lists several different special purpose models?
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Tom007 on September 10, 2020, 09:53:21 AM
I am no expert on these guns, but the 21 inch barrel would lead me to believe it is indeed a turkey model. Good luck, great gun....you will love it......
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Ozarks Hillbilly on September 10, 2020, 10:01:52 AM
Yes it would be a SPST

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Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Jc69 on September 10, 2020, 12:40:53 PM
Quote from: Ozarks Hillbilly on September 08, 2020, 09:39:23 AM
Does it have a vent rib or rifle sights? Late 90's I would venture a guess camo pattern is Mossy Oak original Break Up. Then they switched to Mossy Oak Obsession. Mid 2000's they switched to Realtree APG.
I would suggest a Indian Creek. 665 choke tube. Check POI vs. POA make any necessary adjustments and go hunting.

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Thanks for the suggestion on the choke.  That is exactly what I was planning to put on her.  I've heard from more than one person that the .665 Indian Creek on an 11-87 is a great combo.
Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Ozarks Hillbilly on September 10, 2020, 12:51:44 PM
Your welcome. Indian Creek .665 in a 870 or 11-87 seem to throw a great pattern. They work well in a M2 also. I think they work well in several manufacturers. I just have more experience with Remington's.

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Title: Re: School me on old schol Remington 11-87s
Post by: Tom007 on September 10, 2020, 01:29:34 PM
Quote from: Ozarks Hillbilly on September 10, 2020, 12:51:44 PM
Your welcome. Indian Creek .665 in a 870 or 11-87 seem to throw a great pattern. They work well in a M2 also. I think they work well in several manufacturers. I just have more experience with Remington's.

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