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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 12 ga Remington pattern pictures => Topic started by: TANK on March 13, 2015, 11:23:47 AM

Title: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: TANK on March 13, 2015, 11:23:47 AM
I found a new in the box Rem 11-87 in the Mossy Oak Greenleaf pattern at a pawn shop. It has the 21 inch barrel. I have shot it with a pattern master and a factory super full with differnt brands and shot sizes and every shot it hits low. I notice that it has a small brass bead and a larger white one. Is it a trick to how I should line them up? I have been shooting it like a normal gun. Any suggestions without a scope, red dot, or try glo........Thnanks
Title: Re: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: Ridge Rooster on March 13, 2015, 02:05:40 PM
I had to form a figure eight with mine, brass bead on the lower side of the white. i purchased some Tru Glo Magnum Gobble dot sights and have not looked back.

Ridge Rooster
Title: Re: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: jwhunter on March 13, 2015, 03:53:41 PM
i have a Remington 11-87 in trebark. it has the same beads as your describing. one white and one brass. mine does shoot low and to the right a little. i am going to put new site on it soon. but i can still hunt with it. just compensate for the shot
Title: Re: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 13, 2015, 05:30:35 PM
I have both the Trebark and the Greenleaf 1187's w/21" barrels and I installed Williams FireSights on both of them.  I shoot the Hevi-13 .662/3" Mag Blends with the Trebark and Patternmaster Code Black Turkey .665/3" Hevi #6's with the Greenleaf.  They both throw nasty 40 yard patterns. So put some after market sights on it and you're good to go!
Title: Re: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: msgobblergetter on March 13, 2015, 09:49:39 PM
In every remington 870 and 1187 owners manual ive ever read,  it says barrels with mid-beads you must form a figure 8 with the mid bead below the end bead. If you don't, it will shoot low.
Title: Re: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: Longshanks on March 14, 2015, 07:57:44 PM
I have always been able to adjust the up and down with double beads. Tighter beads when it shoots high and figure 8 or even a slight space if it's shooting low. My beretta shotguns are like that when I was shooting double beads. Slight space to make them shoot correct. Shooting left or right is when I had to add Tru Glo Magnum all-metal adjustable sights. Easy fix.
Title: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: Gobbler2577 on March 16, 2015, 09:25:54 PM
I hate you're having trouble so I'll buy if from you and you can go buy one that'll shoot straight. 
Title: Re: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: Dr Juice on March 23, 2015, 08:54:40 AM
I have the same exact gun and installed a saddle mount base and a Simmons ProDiamond scope (4X) because of the same issue. It's a killing machine and I nevered looked back. A photo of it is in my profile picture. Good luck.
Title: Re: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 23, 2015, 01:42:06 PM
Quote from: mlisandro on March 23, 2015, 08:54:40 AM
I have the same exact gun and installed a saddle mount base and a Simmons ProDiamond scope (4X) because of the same issue. It's a killing machine and I nevered looked back. A photo of it is in my profile picture. Good luck.
What choke and load are you shooting in it?
Title: Re: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: TANK on March 30, 2015, 12:10:36 PM
Quote from: Gobbler2577 on March 16, 2015, 09:25:54 PM
I hate you're having trouble so I'll buy if from you and you can go buy one that'll shoot straight.
Lol it's not for sale......yet
Title: Re: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: TANK on March 30, 2015, 12:13:08 PM
Thanks guys for all of the advice!
I have shot more chokes/loads through it and everything is the same. I called remington up and of course they want me to send it in. The Tru Glo option is looking pretty good now......lol
Title: Re: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: TANK on March 06, 2016, 09:04:04 AM
Quote from: Ridge Rooster on March 13, 2015, 02:05:40 PM
I had to form a figure eight with mine, brass bead on the lower side of the white. i purchased some Tru Glo Magnum Gobble dot sights and have not looked back.

Ridge Rooster
I have purchased a set of the sights like yours. Where did you place the rear sight on the rib?
Title: Re: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: Philippe on March 06, 2016, 03:47:53 PM
Drop the coin on a nice Bushnell TRS25, it can be had for less than 100 bucks on sale and is probably the best optic you can toss on a turkey rig in that price range. I have one on my 835 and 870 SM and they have taken a beating and never lose their zero.
Title: Re: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 06, 2016, 10:29:20 PM
Quote from: TANK on March 06, 2016, 09:04:04 AM
Quote from: Ridge Rooster on March 13, 2015, 02:05:40 PM
I had to form a figure eight with mine, brass bead on the lower side of the white. i purchased some Tru Glo Magnum Gobble dot sights and have not looked back.

Ridge Rooster
I have purchased a set of the sights like yours. Where did you place the rear sight on the rib?
I have the same gun Tank and I mounted my rear sight just behind the middle bead on the rib.
Title: Re: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: BINK McCARTY on March 08, 2016, 03:13:42 AM
Quote from: TANK on March 13, 2015, 11:23:47 AM
I found a new in the box Rem 11-87 in the Mossy Oak Greenleaf pattern at a pawn shop. It has the 21 inch barrel. I have shot it with a pattern master and a factory super full with differnt brands and shot sizes and every shot it hits low. I notice that it has a small brass bead and a larger white one. Is it a trick to how I should line them up? I have been shooting it like a normal gun. Any suggestions without a scope, red dot, or try glo........Thnanks
Ifn you want to make the investment look into the Burris SpeedBead....I put one on my SBE2 and have to say its...fantastic.
Title: Re: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: Mr. Nasty on April 04, 2016, 04:53:28 PM
My 11-87 is the turkey model, with the shurshot stock, 23" barrel, and shoots 3.5" shells. The gun has a rear and front adjustable sights that are similar to rifle sights. Currently I am shooting 3.5" Nitros with a Jellyhead choke that the owner of Nitro recommend I try. I've killed four turkeys with this combination, and I've hit every single one of them low and to the left. The Nitros are absolutely the most destructive shell I've ever shot a turkey with but my problem is that the majority of my pellets are hitting the body of the turkey. In two of the last four kills, it has practically ruined the breast. I believe part of my problem is that I'm naturally aiming a little low because of a fear of shooting over the turkey.

My question is: do I need to continue to try and adjust the sights I have now? Try to consciously make myself aim higher? Try another load of shells? Try one of these holographic sights like a Burris speed dot or an EOTech?

My confidence is high in my shell/choke combination right now because of killing a few turkeys with it. I just want the turkey's head to be bloodier instead of his breast.
Title: Re: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: Bigfoot on April 06, 2016, 10:10:53 AM
I don't know if this still applies but I bought that same gun new somewhere in the early nineties. It shot about 8 inches low. I called Remington and they told me to send it back and they would look at it.  They fixed it and sent a pattern along with it. Not sure what they did but it shot perfectly after that. It might be worth a try to contact Remington
Title: Re: Rem 11-87 SP Mossy Oak Greenleaf trouble
Post by: mikejd on April 15, 2016, 08:13:49 AM
I am a bead guy myself over sights so I would play with choke and she'll combos until I found the best option. Although that mag cost fore then a fff3 in the end.