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How good can a call be

Started by ozarktroutbum, January 18, 2020, 01:44:08 PM

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ozarktroutbum

I build calls for fun in my spare time.

I got to thinking the other day...some of the best calling I have ever heard (and I am not really even  talking about competition calling) was difficult for me to discern the type of call that was being used until I was able to put eyes on it.

Anyone else feel this way?


Greg Massey

I think it all has to do with the way you hear musical tones with your ears ... opposed to the different calls your hearing being played .. that's why people like a variety of different calls and builders , it's what you like and what kills in your area...

paboxcall

Quote from: Greg Massey on January 18, 2020, 01:54:37 PM
I think it all has to do with the way you hear musical tones with your ears ... opposed to the different calls your hearing being played .. that's why people like a variety of different calls and builders , it's what you like and what kills in your area...

Agree with you Greg, what one likes to hear individually translates to confidence. And confidence kills birds in your area.
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ozarktroutbum

I never heard a glass/crystal call that didn't sound like a glass/crystal call.

I'm not saying they won't kill turkeys because I would be sorely mistaken if I did.


Roost 1

I've never heard a box call that didn't sound like a box call.....

Some sound really good some don't, just like a wild turkey hen.

MK M GOBL

I have always put "rhythm" before anything else, I rely on my CODY World Class Slate because of how I can run it and the sound it produces (range of tones) that call is pure turkey! From there I have one other glass call in my pack and it's like a $10 call but kills birds, I carry a half dozen strikers and half dozen mouth calls. Like what has been said having confidence in your calling is key.


MK M GOBL

Sir-diealot

I have not really used it since I got into custom calls but I have an old Mad Super Crystal that I have absolute confidence in, I leave it and a couple of other production calls in my blind in a dry box for rainy day use and I know I can call up turkey any time with it. I will say I felt even better with the striker that came with it but I fell and lost that 2 years ago and I have not found another Purple Heart striker that sounds as good on it.
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Yoder409


Just remember this............. No matter WHAT type of call..........NONE of them sounds the same in your house, at the outdoor show, in the builder's shop or in your truck as they do at 50-100 yards in the woods.

Used to be on a call company's pro-staff.  Periodically, we'd get prototype calls sent to us.  Usually diaphragms.  We ere required to run, evaluate and rate each one for determination of the final product.  Me and a fellow staffer who lived fairly locally would get together and go to the woods on a Sunday.  We'd space out 75 yards or so and run the prototype  calls.........and usually some other calls we had just brought for the heck of it.  It's VERY telling.......what happens when there's no echo in your room or reverb in your head or feedback in your ears, no sound of a striker running or a paddle clicking.

To BOTH our ears........a good box call is THE MOST realistic hen sound in the woods.  Indistinguishable from a wild hen.   Diaphragms and friction statistically tied for 2nd place.
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The good Lord ain't made a gobbler I can't kill.  I just gotta be there at the right time.....  on the day he wants to die.

3bailey3

I was sure on a hunt one day someone using a mouth call had gotten in between me and a gobbler, when a hen stepped out, I have also heard some of the worst calling ever and I could not for figure out what the guy was using and again the real deal step's out. In the woods it can be hard to tell what's real or not.

LaLongbeard

Yep. I've more than once heard someone scraping on a box call and then saw the hen actually making the awful racket. Would not have believed it if I'd not seen it. 
If you make everything easy how do you know when your good at anything?

1iagobblergetter

Quote from: LaLongbeard on January 18, 2020, 05:45:57 PM
Yep. I've more than once heard someone scraping on a box call and then saw the hen actually making the awful racket. Would not have believed it if I'd not seen it.
I agree. I was laughing to myself once at how horrible someone was calling and out stepped a hen. Couldn't hardly believe it.

ozarktroutbum

Quote from: Yoder409 on January 18, 2020, 05:05:07 PMTo BOTH our ears........a good box call is THE MOST realistic hen sound in the woods.  Diaphragms and friction statistically tied for 2nd place.
To me it is between a box and diaphragm. Purrs are hard for me on boxes, though.

MK M GOBL

Quote from: Yoder409 on January 18, 2020, 05:05:07 PM
Just remember this............. No matter WHAT type of call..........NONE of them sounds the same in your house, at the outdoor show, in the builder's shop or in your truck as they do at 50-100 yards in the woods.


Funny thing as you mention this, I used to take a camcorder in the timber by the house set out about 50 yards and run all my calls, first was to "hear" what I sounded like, my rhythm and then what the calls tone was.

EXCELLENT POINT! Spot On


MK M GOBL

3bailey3

one call I can always identify is a truck barreling down a road on public land, slamming on brakes, turning down some Toby Keith as they step out of the truck and start wailing away on a box call, that is for sure a pure red neck caller!

simpzenith

Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on January 18, 2020, 06:08:20 PM
Quote from: LaLongbeard on January 18, 2020, 05:45:57 PM
Yep. I've more than once heard someone scraping on a box call and then saw the hen actually making the awful racket. Would not have believed it if I'd not seen it.
I agree. I was laughing to myself once at how horrible someone was calling and out stepped a hen. Couldn't hardly believe it.

I'm always amazed at how often these and similar statements are made but yet, I've never heard a "bad sounding hen" in real life or on someone's video. One would think, in this day and age of smart phones, there would at least be a recording of it somewhere.  ???