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Leaving the 12 GA

Started by Rick, December 10, 2019, 08:43:08 AM

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I had a single shot 20 that kicked harder than any 12 or 10 that I have ever shot. lol
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Be forwarned...just cause it's a smaller gauge doesn't indicate it's going to have a lighter recoil

I was unpleasantly surprised to find out my winchester 20 gauge youth  shooting magblends kicked way way harder than both my versamax and sp10
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Quote from: Old Gobbler on December 14, 2019, 06:08:33 PM
Be forwarned...just cause it's a smaller gauge doesn't indicate it's going to have a lighter recoil

I was unpleasantly surprised to find out my winchester 20 gauge youth  shooting magblends kicked way way harder than both my versamax and sp10

Not surprised about your Remington Versamax. The Versaport gas system that it shares with the V3 is terrific.

Spurs Up

Quote from: Old Gobbler on December 14, 2019, 06:08:33 PM
Be forwarned...just cause it's a smaller gauge doesn't indicate it's going to have a lighter recoil

I was unpleasantly surprised to find out my winchester 20 gauge youth  shooting magblends kicked way way harder than both my versamax and sp10

Yep...physics is physics. If I was vulnerable to recoil, I'd want to pair a heavy gun with a light load, irrespective of bore diameter.

Rick

Quote from: Spurs Up on December 15, 2019, 05:55:52 PM
Quote from: Old Gobbler on December 14, 2019, 06:08:33 PM
Be forwarned...just cause it's a smaller gauge doesn't indicate it's going to have a lighter recoil

I was unpleasantly surprised to find out my winchester 20 gauge youth  shooting magblends kicked way way harder than both my versamax and sp10

Yep...physics is physics. If I was vulnerable to recoil, I'd want to pair a heavy gun with a light load, irrespective of bore diameter.


  Head to head ,, i would presume that a Mossberg 500 20 ga pump should kick less than a Remington 12 ga 870 pump !!!
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Quote from: Rick on December 16, 2019, 08:18:13 AM
Quote from: Spurs Up on December 15, 2019, 05:55:52 PM
Quote from: Old Gobbler on December 14, 2019, 06:08:33 PM
Be forwarned...just cause it's a smaller gauge doesn't indicate it's going to have a lighter recoil

I was unpleasantly surprised to find out my winchester 20 gauge youth  shooting magblends kicked way way harder than both my versamax and sp10

Yep...physics is physics. If I was vulnerable to recoil, I'd want to pair a heavy gun with a light load, irrespective of bore diameter.


  Head to head ,, i would presume that a Mossberg 500 20 ga pump should kick less than a Remington 12 ga 870 pump !!!
I've own several guns , 10 ga, 12ga, 16ga , 20 ga and 410 and i've never had lesser gauge kick harder than one of the higher gauges ...

Rick

  Has been my experience also if you compare semi's to semi's and pumps to pumps . I guess there could always be an exception ...
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Rick

  I had a Mossberg 12 ga pump that seem to kick twice as hard as my Remington 870 pump . Both 12 ga's ...
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ol bob

If you have ever shot a Mossberg 835 3 1/2 mag anything is better.

davisd9

Hardest kicking shotgun I ever shot was a Remington 870 SM in black synthetic stock.  I hunted with an 835 until I went to a 20 gauge and it never kicked anything like that 870 SM.
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Quote from: Rick on December 16, 2019, 08:18:13 AM
Quote from: Spurs Up on December 15, 2019, 05:55:52 PM
Quote from: Old Gobbler on December 14, 2019, 06:08:33 PM
Be forwarned...just cause it's a smaller gauge doesn't indicate it's going to have a lighter recoil

I was unpleasantly surprised to find out my winchester 20 gauge youth  shooting magblends kicked way way harder than both my versamax and sp10

Yep...physics is physics. If I was vulnerable to recoil, I'd want to pair a heavy gun with a light load, irrespective of bore diameter.


  Head to head ,, i would presume that a Mossberg 500 20 ga pump should kick less than a Remington 12 ga 870 pump !!!






The Mossburg super Bantam 20ga (5.75lbs) with a limbsaver recoil pad shooting Federal HVWT 3" #7's has noticeably less Felt recoil than an 8plus lb. 12ga 870 (with an old factory recoil pad) shooting Fed. HVWT 3" #7"

But there is still a good bit of felt recoil in the Mossburg 20 considering the detached retina condition.
Personaly if I had retina problems I would get the softest recoiling semi .410, 28ga. or 20ga and shoot TSS.

A 1 ounce load of TSS #9's at 1100fps has fairly mild recoil(for a turkey load) and has 10" numbers that will easily get you to 40yds.




mtns2hunt

I have hunted with a 12g for many years but switched to a 20g TC Encore. Single shot that's awesome to carry. My 12g pump felt like carrying  a 2X4 through the woods while the 20 gauge is like a tooth pick. 20g has hardly any kick when shooting 2 3/4 inch shells. But I was really surprised to find out how hard the 3 inch shells kick. I am loading TSS #9's and know there is an option to load 2 3/4 shells also. Performance is reputed to be the same but I am not sure about the kick. Might be a good  thing to look into for someone that has eye problems.
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Gooserbat

Odd man here.  I switched to the 20 for a few years.  Went back to the 12.  Still shooting tss and only using 2 3/4 loads. 
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Rick

Quote from: Gooserbat on December 20, 2019, 12:04:16 PM
Odd man here.  I switched to the 20 for a few years.  Went back to the 12.  Still shooting tss and only using 2 3/4 loads.

  You didnt like the 20 ???
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Quote from: Rick on December 20, 2019, 02:15:12 PM
Quote from: Gooserbat on December 20, 2019, 12:04:16 PM
Odd man here.  I switched to the 20 for a few years.  Went back to the 12.  Still shooting tss and only using 2 3/4 loads.

  You didnt like the 20 ???
I'm guessing he's packing more shot in that 12 ga. hull... but i could be wrong ...