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Apex 9's, Where'd They All Go?

Started by Spring Creek Calls, June 10, 2019, 03:29:31 PM

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Spring Creek Calls

Shot a single test pattern from my 1300 with a Sumtoy .562 and Apex 9'S. Really liked the 10 inch numbers but where did the rest of the  300+ pellets go? The 2' square paper only shows about 80 holes outside the 10" circle. Over choked? 7's instead of 9's? Not filling the shot cup?

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VAarrowslinger

Interesting. I hope the one I have aren't like that. . Could be 7 shot

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Coop1082

Looks like it could be overchoked. Your 10" looks really stringy and there isn't much uniformity outside of the 10". To be fair a .555-.562 choke in most guns is going to get you either A. A hot core or B. A blown pattern. That's not always the case but in your situation my money is on it being overchoked. If that gun liked the .562 you'd be at 290+ in the 10" all day long.
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Spring Creek Calls

Hard to imagine 230 pellets flew somewhere off a 24"×24"  piece of paper but I guess anything is possible. I personally question the size of shot.  There should be 588 #9 shot in the 1-5/8 Oz load.
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Coop1082

I hand load and have a buddy that does too. He just shot a well known load out of 870 20g to try for giggles yesterday. 2 3/4" 1 5/8oz load. His current 2 3/4" 1 7/16 oz load with 9s out of his 870 does 270/190 on average out of a .562 Sumtoy. The new load went 173/82. Half the load was nowhere to be found. Puts in a .585 Trulock and the same load and same gun goes 270/250...it's very possible. I'd give a more open choke a chance with it and just what happens.
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dirt road ninja

 A load of 7's seems to be the most likely culprit.

Greg Massey

Did you ever figure out the problem ? ... very interesting .....

Spring Creek Calls

Quote from: Greg Massey on June 24, 2019, 11:30:05 PM
Did you ever figure out the problem ? ... very interesting .....

Not yet but will be shooting again either Wednesday or Saturday. My gut feeling is this shell was loaded with something larger than #9's.
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Spring Creek Calls

Pretty sure this one shell was loaded with 7's instead of 9's. Here's another pattern of the same gun, choke and Apex 9's.

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owlhoot

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Quote from: Spring Creek Calls on August 10, 2019, 01:54:21 PM
Pretty sure this one shell was loaded with 7's instead of 9's. Here's another pattern of the same gun, choke and Apex 9's.

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Sure looks like it 8.5 shot maybe. 500 shot in that apex load from their site.
7.5 shot would have 358 in that load. 7 shot around 300?